#25: Siena, Type 8 — Immediacy in Movement Art, the Mystery of Fighting, & the Innocent Heart of the 8
Siena Hassett [SX/SO 8w7 827] is a Theatre Maker, Movement Artist, and someone who really embodies the virtue of the 8 -- Innocence: the joyful unselfconscious expression of one's life-force, and the willingness to be affected by one's environment. Siena is so alive and engaging, and I couldn't help but be moved by her wide open presence in this conversation. I really appreciate how we moved from "caricaturing" her 8ness in the first 15 minutes to unveiling her real sensitivity and heart, especially as we explore her relationship to her art -- and how we navigated that transition together. I'm very proud to release this conversation. This is what it's all about. Enjoy.
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Timestamps:
0:00 Intro
2:54 Open ended start: what's your type and why is it true? "Going through the object"
7:10 8 connection to action
11:20 Fear of "deadness," Amping up the situation
15:11 Taking a minute; new direction: life story from college
20:13 Movement art; why apply to corporeal mime school?
21:44 Professor: "I miss having you cry in class."
23:33 Radical decision, moving for this program; "It's what the work needed," SX instinct
26:45 Program before/after, sense of ease, freedom
29:22 Why so passionate about movement art? "It's what my body wants to do"
31:23 Alive moments with the audience; being with the people that night -- my favorite thing
34:08 "What it is tonight"; "What's here right now?"
39:05 Enneagram boxiness vs aliveness -- exploring Siena as an *artist* reveals her 8 gifts; exploring Siena as an *8* lends to caricature
42:58 Being in the river; quality of stillness
43:55 What does it feel like when the search (for aliveness) isn't going well?
47:05 Legs
51:32 This moment feels really beautiful
56:42 Why do we forget to be present? 58:47 Picking fights -- what's it like? why does it happen?
1:05:47 Mystery of fighting -- sometimes useful, sometimes not; over- and under-expressing anger
1:08:24 "My body gets so hot inside so fast"; Hard to sit with the anger; 2 stories - retail, & guy with a dog
1:12:39 Inner work for 8; expanding window of tolerance for the heat, not being run by the reflex
1:18:21 Innocence of the 8
1:19:39 What was this like for you?
1:21:26 Birth story -- fighting for my life
1:25:14 When I feel received, I can receive
1:26:41 Final thoughts & thank yous
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